Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Jim Schneider
Guest: William J Federer
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William J. Federer is a nationally known speaker, historian, author, and president of Amerisearch, Inc. He is the speaker on “The American Minute” daily broadcast. He;s authored numerous books including, America’s God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations, Who is the King in America?, Socialism: The Real History From Plato to the Present – How the Deep State Capitalizes on Crises to Consolidate Control and the newly released, Silence Equals Consent: The Sin of Omission.
Polls seem to show that Gen “Z” voters (age 18-29) are drawn to socialism and therefore it’s this demographic that appears to be the source for the current popularity of candidates like Zohran Mamdani who is a New York State Assembly member running for mayor of New York.
What’s behind this appeal for socialism? William explained that there’s two ways for people to give up their freedom: fear and free stuff. After WWII and the cold war, the communists couldn’t defeat America from the outside so they tried doing it from the inside. It’s the idea of making everyone dependent. He used the example of wild pigs. You put a post in the ground and throw some corn down. The pigs come and eat the corn and ignore the post. You keep adding posts and throwing down more and more corn. Eventually all you’ll have left is a small opening for the pigs to enter the circle. The pigs will still squeeze their way in. Eventually, you shut the gate behind them and you’ve caught yourself some wild pigs. In other words, you’ve trapped them by dependency.
Drug dealers use a similar approach in order to take over a neighborhood. They can cause fear by use of guns or they can be so nice that for a time they give away free drugs. They may do this until you are hooked at which point you are dependent upon the dealer as the source to supply your addiction.
These examples are known as the Cloward-Piven Strategy, named after Richard Cloward and Frances Piven who were professors at Columbia University. They admitted that you’ll never conquer America with tanks. Instead, you must destabilize the economy and get everyone to sign up for welfare and along the way people will give up their freedom in order to keep the welfare checks coming.
William said he tells people to imagine what would happen if older fish could tell younger fish to avoid shiny things dangling in the water. However, they can’t, so every new generation of fish sees a shiny thing, which is a hook, and they get caught. Socialism is just like that; a shiny thing dangling in the water promising free food, clothes and education. The problem is that there’s a “hook” and it involves giving up control of your life. You become dependent upon the government, they corral you, and before you know it, they “close the gate” behind you.
William went all the way back to the time of Plato and moved on from there as he continued to expose the dangers of socialism on this interesting edition of Crosstalk.
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