JD: Can you tell us a little bit about Francis Chan? What’s his ministry or what should his ministry be?
MG: He is the former pastor of Cornerstone Community Church in Simi Valley, California. He has since resigned as the pastor there he now does conferences. He’s really come off the rails. He got a very solid Biblical education from a very conservative seminary. But since then he has started codling with heretics, embracing Roman Catholicism as a valid expression of Christianity. He’s very ecumenical. He seeks the approval of men over the approval of God.